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nina's avatar

Corrections Canada report on gender diverse prisoners also confirms men who self id was women are more likely to be sex criminals than regular men.

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Rex Landy's avatar

The very NANOsecond a tranny puts his mother’s/sister’s/cousin’s/friend’s underwear on, he’s a fucking degenerate pervert. It’s merely a stagger in his oversized heels to sex offending.

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Ian Morrison's avatar

In the UK, the HMPS report for 2023/24 stated that a male prisoner was 150 times more likely to commit a sexual assault than a female prisoner, but also that a male identifying as a female was four times likelier again to offend. So it’s 600 times more likely that a trans woman will commit a sexual crime in prison than a woman.

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u.n. owen's avatar

& unwanted pregnancies after being incarcerated in women's prisons after self-identifying as trans for cushier conditions.

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Stan Goff's avatar

Useful. Further refinements might be (1) classify “sexual offenses” and (2) transgendered. For example, My great nephew was imprisoned as a sex offender for having consensual heterosexual relations with a girl a few months shy of the age of consent (when he was a few months over [and her dad played golf with the judge]). This differs from, say, flashing, sexual assault, actual pedophilia, and rape. As to “trans-identified,” there is a big difference between some seventeen-year-old internet addict saying this to belong to an in-group and a predatory autogynophile. I’m pretty sure (based on sheer intuition) that these numbers would be both more revealing and damning. I realize this may be an impossible ask, given the paucity of statistics.

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Steve's avatar

But the sex offenses are all non-consensual, right? They’re not just victimless crimes like solicitation for the purpose of prostitution?

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Sue Donym's avatar

These are all statistics for imprisoned offenders. No one is going to do time for solicitation.

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Steve's avatar

Thank you. “They were simply arrested for sex work” has long been the refrain of the TRAs when the sex offender stats of imprisoned trans-identifying men were raised in online debate.

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Sue Donym's avatar

To be frank, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case twenty years ago, when we can see that most of the 'trans in prison' demographic was homosexual transsexuals. Now? It's autogynephiles all the way down, which is yet another reason to disaggregate data on the T by sexual orientation. The information we do have shows that they are very different demographics. Almost like some science guy wrote out a typology of the two types or something.

It's almost like one is a culture bound syndrome caused by a deeply misogynist and homophobic culture and the other is a paraphilia.

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Dewi's avatar
Oct 7Edited

One last thing, buying sex is absolutely not a "victimless crime", nor is selling sex, especially because married men with families are primarily the "Johns". The victims are the wives and children of these dishonest, selfish men, as well as the women and girls who are subjected to dehumanization, violence, disease, disrespect, and objectification for the sake of the sexual desires and request of strange men. Sex work has never been, and will never be, victimless.

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Steve's avatar

Perhaps I should have put “victimless crimes” in scare quotes. But my main point was that TRAs have been making this claim for years now, and it’s good that it’s being debunked.

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Dewi's avatar

I don't think you get federal time for solicitation...

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u.n. owen's avatar

Or Trumpf would be in prison>WH.

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u.n. owen's avatar

Canceled Glinner recently posted page with multiple trans sex crime convicts, incl. those self-identifying to be relocated to women's prisons to continue offending, cat among the pigeons.

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Citternist's avatar

Interesting what you came up with scouring the web! My immediate reaction is to ask: are prison systems even identifying ‘trans’ ‘cross-sex’ , etc? I thought, due to options to change sex in legal documents it’s getting muddier? They do genital checks? Women have to get naked (in showers, eg) so it’s obvious if it’s someone with a d*ck?

In any case, prison sounds horrible & I’ve kept mostly away, as much as possible. Try to be law abiding, mostly I guess. I said early on, in a conversation in the 80’s, that I don’t have much faith in modern medicine, don’t think we’ve come that far from blood-letting, electro-shock therapy, lobotomies, etc. Dysphoria, of the type discussed, is no doubt real. We all have it to some degree (cf Karen Horney, “The Neurotic Personality of Our Time” — we’re all neurotic, modern life makes it so )

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u.n. owen's avatar

Sex convicts are self-identifying as trans specifically to be transferred to women's prisons, Heretic Andrew Gold has heartbreaking YouTube interview with incest survivor whose abuser father was released early after identifying as trans & without her being warned he'd been released.

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Citternist's avatar

Yeah many sad & horrific stories about the criminal justice system. Hesitate to mention personal, family stories but there’s one in my family trying to get justice (or retribution?) for a violent rape. The legal machinations are mind boggling, even with DNA evidence (& the rapist having written a book on how to get away with burglary).

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Barry Miller's avatar

You are so brave taking on this Politically Saturated subject. Thank you.

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u.n. owen's avatar

Years old BBC interview with geneticist Baron Robert Winston saying he knows he'll get hate for stating truth about volatile subject, i.e., we can't change sex, sure enough he's hardly on television since & viewers protest his being canceled.

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Karen Pleschutznig's avatar

Are you writing about the US, Canada or another country?

Also, the statement that half of all trans women are sex offenders isn’t supported by your stats (I couldn’t get access to the linked article, but know enough of these stats not to believe the headline). I assume you meant half of all federally incarcerated trans women, which corresponds better with the numbers provided.

I‘m surprised you don’t raise the possibility that sex offenders more than other incarcerated men could be motivated to get the benefits of a gender and prison change. I haven’t seen reports (anecdotal or arrest record stats) that suggest higher rates than the non-trans male population of criminal (sex or other types) behavior in the non-incarcerated population. A lot of sex offender „discovery of their true selves“ is happening when there are other benefits to such discoveries.

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Sue Donym's avatar

I am using the data I have and that is publicly available to extrapolate reasonable conclusions: the data that's available suggests that around 40-50% of male to female identifying men that are incarcerated are incarcerated for sex offenses.

From there we can reasonably assume a few figures. We need more data to confirm them, but provisionally, I'm saying yes. The question isn't 'half of all trans women are sex offenders', it's 'Are Trans Women More Likely to Be Sex Offenders' - which appears to be true, and even more likely than other men to be sex offenders.

I don't make any assumptions and there isn't any substantive or recent data on how many started claiming a female identity in prison, hence why I deemed that question outside of the scope of the article. Lastly, autogynephilia is a compulsive paraphilia and compulsive paraphilias are associated with sex offenses of any type, particularly one that involves the humiliation and exhibitionism that autogynephilia does.

Finally, I'm not sure why you can't get access to the article. This Substack isn't paid.

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u.n. owen's avatar

Unwanted pregnancies & civil suits happening in multiple countries as self-identifying trans moved to women's prisons.

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